Today’s interview is with Jeff M. Jeff passed away in 2011. Summer and Jeff dated in 1987 for a few months and remained friends for years afterward. In their 20s Jeff had moved out of state and when Summer needed to get away, she would go visit Jeff and stay with him for a few days to get some downtime and spend quality time with his dog Blue.

Some of the things Jeff spoke about in this conversation were new to Summer and a bit of a surprise. 

OK so getting started I will say we have some technical issues this morning but we all figured out somthat we could capture this convrsation.

Summer: OK so Jeff I don’t know if we’ve ever actually talked since you’re passing. 

Jeff: I’ve been around. Jason takes most of the glory and communicating

Summer: (nodding head) very interesting and nice to know, so are we ready? 

First question, what were your first experiences after your death or physical passing?

Jeff: Oh my goodness I was so glad to be out that body, it was like a trap for me. We didn’t mesh well me and my physical body. I had a lot of seizures the brain, the body and soul was just a complete challenge from start to finish.  So my first experience was the joy that I was free. I kind of just hovered over my body just watching it flail because the body was in the middle of a seizure and this one finally was the ticket out. I’m glad nobody was really around because otherwise they would’ve tried to save me and I didn’t want to be saved. 

Summer: OK so you just watched your body your body stopped moving what did you do after that?

Jeff: I hung around just watching, I was kind of lost for a moment then I felt  pulling sensation. It was pulling me upward and out up, up and out. I got swept away .

Summer: he is showing me a solid white light or tube, then I see a room. You can tell it’s a room, but there’s no real definition to it so you dont see corners, or walls but it feels like a room.

Jeff: Yes, you are correct,and this is where I started meeting my family. My dad was the first to show up and guided me the way.

Summer: Next question what do you enjoy doing?

Jeff: I love making music. You can hang out with the greats here. Tom Petty and the Eagles bass player (Randy M). I play the bass guitar here. It fits me the best boom boom boom boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, we play live concerts, which is cool. You are able to create what every you want here so we create groups for our concerts, laughing. We just have a blast and I love playing music. We can do it like all the time, truly like all the time like. I would say like all day but there’s not a day “time” there’s just it’s right now so no the rest for the weary, laughing that’s all right because we don’t need rest.

Summer: So my next question is, do you visit other places? 

Jeff: I’m really more of a homebody. I don’t like getting out and venturing out too much. I pretty much stay here. I will go visit  family and friends that are still on their earthly adventure, you would say. I don’t intervene, right so I watch and observe, but you won’t hear much from me. My brother struggles the most out of everybody with my passing for some odd reason he feels guilty and he should not. You see I wanted to go and there’s nothing that I would’ve wanted differently. My passing happened exactly the way I wanted it to. I didn’t want my brother my girlfriend or her friends or anybody to interfere with my plan. I’m not too noisy when they arrive here. I’ll meet them with hugs a smile and a warm heart. Share that I am happy they made it back then I go on with what ever I was doing. No big celebrations or hoorays for me, just not my style.

Summer: So next question, what do you miss most from physical? 

Jeff: I would say the parties I mean you can party here but it’s not the same when you’re in physical you get to be the party you get to move like it’s just different like you’re solid and things feel differently and when you bump into people and be next to people and, just being part of the parties. It wasn’t just the sex ,don’t get me wrong. Sex is always good but it’s not what it was about. It was about the experience. Party was the experience that I missed the most.

Summer: So I pause here because from what I remember, Jeff is that you didn’t go to a lot of the parties.

Jeff: Oh, I went to parties. You just weren’t at the ones that I went to and some of the parties just a friend or me and a couple people they weren’t always the big parties.

I must tell you, I asked Bill if I could ask you out, but you know this, but I did it to spite him more than anything and I never thought he would say yes.  I felt that he needed to know that other people were interested in you because he was somewhat taking advantage of your situation. 

Summer: So how is he taking advantage of it?

Jeff:  He was seeing other girls and he would make sure that they weren’t in the same area like county or city, but he had lots of other girls. 

Summer: I never knew that.

Jeff:  of course not.  Also, I really wasn’t that mad that you took Greg to that house party. he needed that experience. It definitely didn’t ruin him. I think it opened his eyes to realize the dangers of intoxication can bring. Happy he found out early than later in life. It prevented him from making bigger mistakes.

Summer: What advice do you have? 

Jeff: Don’t take life too seriously it’s just a moment in time. In the big scheme of it all. Enjoy your time there because in a blink of an eye it can all be gone. The reality is that on the planet for like 70-80 years it’s just moments to those who are here in the “afterlife” we don’t have time here. We don’t have days or months. We are all together and we’re not we’re together. 

Summer: Wait I’m not understanding can you explain.

Jeff: it someone is here and they decide to go to earth and then before you know it they’re right back almost like a blink of an eye. They’re back and sharing their wisdom and we’re happy to have them back.

Death death death is not dying death when you die on earth is just a continuation of your soul and another space when you’re here you have many more options on how you want to exist you can stay here. I am a homebody so I stay here. If you want to go to other places, plains you are free to do so. You can even create your own space and dissappear into it. You can go to sit with your family members and watch them with their challenges of life too. It’ll be gone before you know it .

Summer: Anything else you would like to share before we go?

Jeff: Yes, keep up the good work, oh yeah I can’t believe it took you this long to do this. Have a history of procrastination and you’re not getting any better at that. He had a good one, Jason that is and he watches after you like a hawk, Jason is always there for you. I would say somewhat obsessed. He is just so protective he’s always watching over you. He is your protector. Nothing, when I say nothing I mean absolutely nothing, will be able to hurt you again. Your physical lives with one another was cut short and he is making it up every single moment here, my dear, you are truly loved and don’t ever doubt that for a moment. The space and place in which you are now is where you’re supposed to be. The dynamics of that will be changing. As they change, remember, you have an army by your side to help you through the moment. Open your heart and love. Vulnerability is the new sexy, and the sexiest and bravest thing that one can do, is to be vulnerable.